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Post by Flashman » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:46 am

Rockall is stretching it a bit. This is literally just a rock sticking up out of the sea no more than 20 yards wide. Certainly not big enough to land a plane on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall

To save you time, a summary of the name changes to make Africa accurate for WWII:

Western Sahara = Spanish Sahara
Mali = French Soudan
Ghana = Gold Coast
Burkina Faso should be deleted and absorbed into it's neighbours (see map link)
Central African Republic = Ubangi-Chari
Dem REp Congo = Belgian Congo
Equatorial Guinea = Spanish Guinea
Rep of Congo = French Congo
Tanzania = Tanganyika
Benin = Dahomey

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Post by Nuclear » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:43 pm

Flashman wrote:Rockall is stretching it a bit. This is literally just a rock sticking up out of the sea no more than 20 yards wide. Certainly not big enough to land a plane on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall
I am keeping it. I like having it. Makes the map more realistic. Besides someone had a guard tower/building on it at one time. At least it appears that way from your source. I want to see Germany or Italy take it perhaps. It is major in the sense that it gives UK its economic zone. Without it UK has a much a smaller zone.
To save you time, a summary of the name changes to make Africa accurate for WWII:

Western Sahara = Spanish Sahara
Mali = French Soudan
Ghana = Gold Coast
Correcting those Except perhaps the Western Sahara one. The fact that is in the spanish color makes it obvious that is apart of Spain.
Burkina Faso should be deleted and absorbed into it's neighbours (see map link)
I like having it. Makes an extra space to travel through
Central African Republic = Ubangi-Chari
Dem REp Congo = Belgian Congo
Equatorial Guinea = Spanish Guinea
Rep of Congo = French Congo
Tanzania = Tanganyika
Benin = Dahomey
As for those I have corrected them.
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Post by Nuclear » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:44 pm

Here is a good map that I have been using to figure out the areas for 1940 in Africa
http://www.geocities.com/maldenhill/africamar40.jpg
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Post by Nuclear » Sun Sep 16, 2007 11:05 pm

Note:

I should be play testing this map out soon enough. Results will effect the final rules for it.

Also the map in the originial post has been updated.

Things that I still need someone to confirm:
1. Should the UK have more Convoys?
2. Should Russia, Germany, or the USA have a Convoy?
3. Are the Russian Terrorities named correctly? If not which ones need to be changed and where is your source to back it up?
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Post by Flashman » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:27 pm

Nuclear wrote:Here is a good map that I have been using to figure out the areas for 1940 in Africa
http://www.geocities.com/maldenhill/africamar40.jpg
That's fine, but the one I posted has more detail of administrative areas and correct names for all territories. Note the way Upper Volta was absorbed into it's neighbours (1933-47)

http://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/africa/afr1936.gif

I believe Spanish Sahara was known as Western Sahara only from about 1975.
I've argued before that there's no need to use the "French" prefix to Madagascar as there's only one Madagascar anywhere. However since there are many Saharan territories "Spanish" is appropriate. Maybe I should add "French" before Soudan, and "Anglo-Egyptian" before Sudan, but the last is such a mouthful I prefer to let the spelling differentiate.

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Post by Flashman » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:35 pm

Russia

Can't find a worthwhile map online, so you'll have to check your atlas. But bear in mind a lot of names have changed since 1940.

http://www.volgagirl.com/pics/random/map.jpg

My suggestions:

The borders are generally fine, but I would divide your "Caucasus" territory west/east to produce DON and VOLGA (ref my map) with both bordering Stalingrad emphasising that city's importance as a transport centre.

The Georgia territory is more accurately TRANSCAUCASUS as it includes many small states, and it is here that the major oil production centres were so I'd also increase the IPC value.

Belgorod = KURSK is the more important town, or just SOUTH RUSSIA
Penza (too far west) = UPPER DON
Belorussia = YAROSLAVL or NORTH RUSSIA
Archangel = I would lose the IC; move it to Urals
Tula (too far west) = RYAZAN
Kirov = GORKI
Sverdlovsk = SARATOV
Vorkuta = KOMI
Urals = PERM
Perm = BASHKIR or UFA
Siberia = TRANS-URALS or SVERDLOVSK, place an IC here

In general I'd move the IPCs from the northern forests like Karelia, Archangel, Murmansk to those territories bordering Moscow, and give 3 or 4 to the new Siberia/Urals IC.

In general the map has some confusion as to the use of cities or province names; I generally dislike using cities, but for those circled areas keep them.

You could consider adding :
Belgrade city between Croatia/Serbia; maybe Baghdad; and if you take my suggestion of an Urals IC Chelyabinsk became the major centre of Soviet tank production.
Baku was the oil capital, on the Caspian sea.

You could also add national insignia to
Warsaw (Polish checker design)
Belgrade (Serb Cross)
Norway (Stripes)

Most of these are on my 1940 map:
http://66.125.84.108/web1/flashman/1940 ... ch1940.jpg

The Polish check design is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundel



The various colonies weren't allowed their own airforces, but Egypt and Iraq did.

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