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Re: What I would like Larry to design

Post by suit » Mon May 25, 2020 8:11 pm

Now for Sea Units: In real time submarines from W.W.ll were captured and actually maybe used(His Majesty’s U-Boat), while the U.S.N. captured a sinking German U-Boat that was abandon by its crew.

What would the Martians use a submarine, more in use spying and reconnaissance(maybe laying a type of mine). With there advance technology, a breed of super/enhance subs., but, they don’t build or modify them.

Why, no deep water exist on their planet Mars, to ever have used a submarine. The unknow revulsion of being underwater, is just too much for them.

Now what they use for a surface fleet is...

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Re: What I would like Larry to design

Post by suit » Tue May 26, 2020 8:33 pm

The first Martian ships were repurpose ships that were “fired” from Mars, and had inside the original Martian invaders with their large Tripods. For game purposes these ships are very much larger, than the ones describe in the Well’s The War of the Worlds book.

Using their local repair shop, adapting levitation devices, these large ships, are like semi-submerged submarines. Why?, the large ships just barely float, without the levitation devices, they would sit on the harbor floor unable to move. They also suck up allot of fuel cells, but, are armed with the fame Heat Wave.

As the War progress...

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Re: What I would like Larry to design

Post by suit » Wed May 27, 2020 4:27 pm

They eventually built more efficient ships, more of the old galleon version. A ship that was a military ship, but, also could transport military weapons, supplies, and, soldiers/sailors/airmen that used those weapons.

Along with having to use recycled terrain weapons, much less the inferior steel that they were built. One mini could be for the modern The War of the Worlds minis, of the recycled U.S.N. Ship Texas. This ship was the version of a Battleships made, just before W.W.I. Modernized in the 1920s and actually served again in W.W.II(taking part for the Normandy landings).

Finally in the late 1940s turned into a museum ship at San Jacinto, Texas. Now with the Martian invasion of 2025, it was by mid-war 2029 retrofitted for use by the invaders. Instead of ten 14” guns in five turrets, it has now five Heat Rays, one in each turret.

By the seventh year of the war 2032, six of the 14” guns were put back due to the lack of power cells to power three of the turrets( the invaders had come upon a stock of vintage 14” naval shells).

Finally in the last year of the war 2033, the Texas Hybird Martian ship, was sunk in Trinity Bay, outside of Houston, Texas.

The next year, the U.S. Navy had it raised and salvaged, where it serves again as a museum ship, and, as a training ship. This valuable ship is an excellent training ship, as it now houses two turrets with active and working Martian Heat Rays, along with other invader’s upgrades.

The minis would be mid-war hybrid version, of all the five turrets housing a Heat Ray, and, the rarer mini of late War version(of two turrets housing Heat Ray and three turrets housing 14” guns again).

Now for pure Martian built surface ships...

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Re: What I would like Larry to design

Post by suit » Thu May 28, 2020 8:16 pm

Theses would be planned ships built on earth, but, material shipped from Mars. When the initial invasion failed, and, the realization of the retrofitted space ships into sea ships would not be enough.

At first this unplanned expense of resources was met by the home planet Mars, but, as the war dragged on supplies became fewer and fewer(especially in the modern The War of the Worlds version).

This lead to the use of terrain ships being made into Martian ships, see the Texas example. Also lacking good anti submarine defensive, and, poor tactics and strategy doomed the Martian Sea going fleet...

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Re: What I would like Larry to design

Post by suit » Sat May 30, 2020 9:10 pm

These ships were hugh, the Texas was like a D.D. escorting one of these extra large capital ships. Actually built in an unmatian streamline Art Deco style. Clean lines, with most of the ships were never seen, as it was semi-submerged, with only some of the upper superstructure above the water line.

Serving a Triple purpose, working as a transport, and, a battleship & aircraft carrier combo. Carrying in three raises turrets when need,ed, six large Heat Rays. Surrounding the ship, a dozen smaller Heat Rays, used as A.A. Defense. Finally on a raised platform, able to levitate, 36 levitating Tripods.

The latter smaller than the retrofitted large Tripods built with the ability to fly. These Tripods are quite small, cleaner lines, with the ability to at least match the speed of the the best Earth fighters.

On the down side, the mega capital ship needs a small fleet of escort ships to help defend it. Usually a dozen to this fleet of retrofitted Martian space craft to sea craft, and, converted ships like the Texas.

For a W.W.II plotting on a soft cardboard map of a Martian Fleet trying to get from point A to B, having to face Wolf Pack of your typical Type VII U-Boat, with a observation B-24 passing on information to the submarines. By the time they get to Mid-Atlantic, a United Earth Force of several Heavy Cruisers/Battle Cruisers like the Hood, U.S.N. B.B like the NorthCarolina, Germán B.B. like the Bismark, various light Cruisers and D.D.s. Also supply ships and tankers, a few baby flattops and a large A.C. Like the Enterprise, are waiting to duke it out with the enemy(along with bombers from Greenland). This is The War of the Worlds version of the new Battle of the Atlantic.

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Re: What I would like Larry to design

Post by suit » Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:25 pm

Minis and the problem of Martian Naval High Command. For the latter, there was never such a command, it was created when the invaders came to the earth. Their super size capital ships are a killer, unfortunately they put all their eggs in one basket.

In real time the German King Tiger was costly and for the materials used, you could have built a few Panzer Mark IVs/Tank Destroyers. Also what it cost for the steel used for the Bismarck, you could have built a fleet of submarines.

The Martians by building this one tough battleship/transport/A.C. combo would have been better off building numerous smaller battleships, heavy and light cruisers. Theses ships could be spread out further, and, carry out more missions. Instead they built their prestige “Tiger Tank” versión ship, looks good, but, cannot carryout it’s mission effectively.

Also this hugh ship, sucks up large amount of resources like fuel cells, if it was not levitated it would sink and get stuck easily in the mud of a harbor.

Plus being so large, makes it easier to spot and attack, even without radar!

Finally this juggernaut of a ship, one Heat Ray hit on any terrain ship, would probably sink it. But like a giant with feet of clay, the problem is range. A B.B. can have a range up to twenty miles, even recycle W.W.I ships, and, using radar can have a degree of accuracy. The Martian Heat Ray, range decreases especially dealing with the earth’s atmosphere. A good range is two miles, after that it gets weaker and weaker. At a range, even if it reached that far, of twenty miles would cause little or no damages to any ship with armor(even a D.D. that has armor mostly for the guns).

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Re: What I would like Larry to design

Post by suit » Thu Jun 04, 2020 6:50 pm

Now the mini for this giant Martian ship would be at least about 4x the size of W.W.II New Jersey mini in length.

It would come in at least two parts that you snap together, with a third part to serve as a different superstructure, when in a carrier mode. This “flat top configuration” would show some of the Martian fighters.

For play purposes, perhaps ships of either side, can have their bases “snapped” to each other. For ease of movement, and, battle purposes. Oh yes the Martian super ship, can snap the repurpose Texas, to cover its flank.

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Re: What I would like Larry to design

Post by suit » Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:12 pm

To round out the Martian Fleet, perhaps some sort of dictated anti-sub. Ship that drops kinetic depth charges(their super Battleship could not vaporizer enough seawater to ever stop a spread of torpedoes).

A recondition terrain submarine, for scouting and reconnaissance purposes only(even thought reconditioned with Martian technology, the crew prefers to never, if they can avoid it, to submerge for any length of time).

For play purposes, theses minis have to be scaled up in size, in order to see and use them. While a second set would be in scale to the Martian Super Battleship.

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