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Currently, if the Germans had 10 subs in the Black Sea they would cripple the Allied economies with the present Interdiction rules..LOL
Then again, if the Germany could afford to build a fleet of 10 subs in the Black Sea, then the Allies are going to lose anyway
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03-15-2004, 12:43 AM #82
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LOL DY, true, true.....Just one of those hypothetical examples. = )
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03-15-2004, 09:15 AM #83
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Balancing a game flaw + offering more options sounds like a good thing to have. I vote to allow ftr interceptions of SBR.
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Wow! I actually agree with Einstein 100% on this one
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03-15-2004, 09:21 AM #84
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Dear all,
Will the entrance of Med sea closed if Gilbrator and Algeria is control by one side?
I think we could visit this in an advanced rules edition on AA revised. I know many have played with a house rule long the same lines as The Fool's suggestion in the MB AA.
I may have even broken my "no house rules" rule to try this variation, saying the Med is only closed if one side controls both Algeria and Gibraltar (it is open if each side owns one-a-piece, unlike the Suez Canal rule).
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03-15-2004, 06:48 PM #85
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Larry and Mike, may I suggest you guys also keep tabs on ideas posted on the thread entitled Submarines Underpowered.
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03-15-2004, 07:14 PM #86
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I'm going to put my $ .02 worth in: (about Strat. bombing raids and Sub rules...)
I am going to propose a minor 'variant' and also agree with DY as well!
Agree with DY:
1) Possibly: bring back fighter escorts : I, too, liked that rule very much and made Strategic bombing- very strategic! (and more realistic)....
a) (attacker) choose bombers and fighters that will go on Strat. Bomb. Raid
b) (defender) chooses fighters to intercept raiding planes.
c) (defender) rolls AA gun as normal
d) remaining fighters dogfight
e) each '2' rolled for defender= 1 casualty
f) each '1' rolled for attacker= 1 casualty
g) owner removes casualty (attacker may sacrifice bomber or fighter as causalty)
h) remaining bombers drop payload (normal rules apply)
[Note] any fighters involved: MAY NOT participate in land battles for that turn! (mark these planes on the board with plane-movement chit, etc.)
Heavy bombers variant:
When applying hits, instead of normal rule (2d6)...I propose this simple variant:
1) roll 2d6/2 ....basically take an average of the 2 dice (2 dice rolled divide by 2... round down )= new result!*
* This is only done in Strat Bomb Raids...also helps 'lessen' the effects of HVY Bombers instead of doing away with them all together!
(ie 4 HVY bombers attack an I.C. worth 3 pts..... They each roll 2d6 accordingly: 1,4 6,4 3,3 2,6....... the end result would be= 2 , 5 , 3 , and 4 (instead of 5, 10, 6, and
--This way: out of 4 HVY bombers, chances are 3 out of 4 bombers may not hit target for the max IPC's taken (allowing for a more chance against them!)*This would also help raids against bigger targets such as H.Q.'s! Instead of paying out 29 IPC's (from above example and providing the H.Q. was worth 10 pts)....one would only lose 11 IPC's!... especially against USA's Superfortresses!
*This 'variant' will lessen the effects of HVY bombers against smaller IPC producing I.C. but still have potency enough to do damage against bigger ones!
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2) Also: bring back 'ASW' Destroyer rule:
a) in order to have ANY plane/ships to attack a sub piece, that player must have a destroyer present in that sea zone with enemy sub!
b) any sub can attack any enemy sub (regardless of destroyer present)
c) destoyers present with enemy subs negates all special abilities for that sub (normal rules apply)- subs may not use 'first'-shot option, may not submerge, etc.
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....Just curious Mike: "Why did they do away with these rules from Pacific/Europe editions !?!?"
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03-16-2004, 12:49 AM #87
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Not sure about your HB variant Nick. It almost makes them worse than non-heavies (if you consider the order in which you roll the dice and the first was a "6" and the second a "1", then you have done less damge than the non-heavy version).
I would imagine rolling two dice and choosing only one of them to be the damge rolled would be superior (oviously you would choose the "6" in my example).
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03-16-2004, 01:24 AM #88
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Another (simple & easy) way to reduce SBR effects of bmrs is to limit them to their value in combat: 1 through 4 hits, 5 or 6 misses.
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03-16-2004, 01:40 AM #89
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Another (simple & easy) way to reduce SBR effects of bmrs is to limit them to their value in combat: 1 through 4 hits, 5 or 6 misses.
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So each dice does a maximum of 4 IPCs damage?
If not, please clarify.
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03-16-2004, 04:23 AM #90
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...ok- how about that then: HVY Bombers.... roll 2d6- choose highest roll (that would make sense too!_) hmmmm...?
Or just bring back fighter escorts and keep HVY bombers the same (2d6)...that alone should be enough incentive to guard your I.C.[Not to mention fighters are now even cheaper!]
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