Major Industrial Complexes - Rules Confusion

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Zuxius
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Major Industrial Complexes - Rules Confusion

Post by Zuxius » Thu May 29, 2014 3:08 pm

I'm a bit confused as to how this works with the verbage. The Japanese wish to build a 10 factory on their mainland (china). There is a Chinese territory which is originally theirs at the beginning of the game (chinese but with an off color orange signifying Japanese occupation).

We've built factories there for years now, Major ICs mind you.

What I'm confused with is the term "Originally Controlled." As in "Originally controlled at the beginning of your turn" or Originally Controlled at Game Start up."

I am assuming that territories you "originally controlled" at game start up means I can't build major factories (as the Japanese) in territories "originally owned by the allies." For instance, I didn't originally control Kwangtung at game start up, but I do control it at the beginning of my turn.

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Does this mean if I control Kwangtung at the beginning of my turn, I can build a Major IC there.

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I'm unclear if the areas Japan starts in China are considered "Originally Controlled" since the Japanese merely occupy China and it is not one of their original territories historically, meaning they can only build Minor ICs there.

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Re: Major Industrial Complexes - Rules Confusion

Post by LyrandisX » Thu May 29, 2014 3:45 pm

The final one is your answer

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Re: Major Industrial Complexes - Rules Confusion

Post by Krieghund » Thu May 29, 2014 4:29 pm

A power's originally controlled territories are the ones that have its emblem on them. For most powers, that also means the ones they start the game with. Japan is an exception, as it begins the game controlling some original Chinese territories. See page 8 of the 2nd Edition Pacific Rulebook.
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Re: Major Industrial Complexes - Rules Confusion

Post by Zuxius » Thu May 29, 2014 8:30 pm

So to be clear, Japan cannot build a Major Factory on mainland china, anywhere.

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Re: Major Industrial Complexes - Rules Confusion

Post by Krieghund » Fri May 30, 2014 6:28 am

That's correct, under the 2nd Edition rules.
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Re: Major Industrial Complexes - Rules Confusion

Post by Tavenier » Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:03 am

So if you want a factory on the Mainland, Korea is your only option.

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Re: Major Industrial Complexes - Rules Confusion

Post by Wittman » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:13 pm

As Japan, that is right Tavenier.

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Re: Major Industrial Complexes - Rules Confusion

Post by MiniAlien » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:32 am

Tavenier wrote:So if you want a factory on the Mainland, Korea is your only option.
Only if you want a Major factory on the Mainland. You can still place Minor factories in Manchuria, Shantung and Kiangsu if they are under Japanese control.
A factory in one of these (original Chinese) territories will be destroyed (moved off the board) if that territory is liberated though.

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